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Help Spread the Word by oomizuao Help Spread the Word by oomizuao
copyed from: :iconsanguisgelidus:

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PLEASE READ:
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If you did not hear about it, let me explain it within a few lines: For about 4 months now deviantart launches a new frontpage system called "Fair Exposure". It is not only based on the count of favourites/comments/views anymore, but tries to feature deviations from different, especially underappreciated categories to have a variety of art on the frontpage. While this seems like a honorable and nice goal it seems to achieve the reverse effect. It is called "Fair", but if you look at the frontpage these days it wont be hard to notice, that "Fair" looks different. Masses of people submit their deviations to obscure categories just because it increases their chance to get to the frontpage. The frontpage is full of naked women presenting rather intimate parts of their bodies, photographs of lego-figures with 20 favs, MLP-fanart submitted to totally wrong categories and art that is submitted to resources and stock images, just because you can download a custom brush that was probably made within minutes... On the same time pictures with lots of favourites, even of unknown artists, who spendt hours and hours and WOULD or SHOULD HAVE been featured on the frontpage, don't get the chance to get some exposure, because they submitted their piece into the right category. The new frontpage system favours special categories (Photography>Interior/Exterior, Wallpaper>Photmanipulation, Digital Art>Vecor Art/Typography, Resources and Stock Images just to name a few of them), while more popular categories like Manga/Anime, Fanart, Digital Art>Paintings&Airbrushings and others are handicapped. So it is not rarely seen that a picture with 100 favs gets featured on the frontpage, while a picture out of the handicapped categories with, lets say, 500 favs remains unseen by the masses. I know that art shouldn't be all about popularity and that, but if you try to build up a fanbase and maybe want to work as an artist, then you are dependent on the exposure your art gets, so the frontpage indeed gets really important for you. And also the people, who just use deviantart to show the fruits of their hobby or passion, use the frontpage for their inspiration and to find rolemodels, which's skill-level they try to achieve. The frontpage is for me one of the most important features DA has, it shows (or should show), what moves and concerns the people. But now the frontpage doesn't show anymore, what really is "Popular" but more what is "put into a certain category, which the new system favours, because it is underappreciated".

Through the old frontpage I found most of the awesome people I am watching now. I found the people, who inspired me to get better, whose art I admired and whose skill level I wanted to achieve... But now I hardly find anything really awesome on the frontpage anymore. Surely many pictures on the frontpage were also made by people, who have passion and spendt many hours on their art... But a big part of the pictures only is there because of cheating or having luck, because they were chosen of the new algorhythm.

I know that there are people, who might disagree with my opinion. If you don't think the way I do, feel free to post your opinion in the comments. But for me a lot of the magic DA used to have was lost with this new system...

But this deviation shouldn't be just a complaining piece of a frustrated deviant, I wanna try to give you, DA, a suggestion, probably everyone would be happy about:

Fair Exposure is basically a nice thing, so why don't you just make THREE categories for the frontpage:
1. Popular (the old system, more based on the numbers of favs/comments/views)
2. Fair Exposure (The new system, featuring pieces of rather unknown and new artists)
3. Newest

If you agree with me and think that would be the best solution to overcome the problem, there are some things you can do, to make DA aware, that their users are dissatisfied with the current situation:

1. +FAV this deviation so more and more people can see it
2. Write a journal about the topic (providing a link to this deviation or just copy-pasting the text above)
3. Download this deviation and submit it to your gallery giving a link to the original deviation
4. Sharing this picture and the ideas everywhere to make the topic viral


Be a part of this revolution, which is not against DA, but is willing to make DA a better place!
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:iconalagvaile:
Alagvaile Featured By Owner May 19, 2013
Wow. I didn't knew this until now. You're right that IS unfair.
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:iconellielza:
ellielza Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
explains why mlp "vectors" makes front page...
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:icondevilboy23:
devilboy23 Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:iconthisplz:
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:iconventures-of-jojo:
Ventures-of-Jojo Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2012  Hobbyist
A compromise that is fair to everyone on here seems to be alittle difficult for the dA staff...
but I don't have any better ideas ...
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:iconcelestialsunberry:
celestialsunberry Featured By Owner May 3, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
There are plenty of people on DA; that's for sure. Hey, I've been here for nine years and running.

I'm not a perfect artist. But I do try hard, and would like to see more newer, less known artists featured. Just because you aren't popular doesn't mean you aren't a good artist.

Everyone's style is different, and there are a lot of great artists and people on DA.
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:iconfayth39:
Fayth39 Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Alas, neither system is all too fair, but I agree that little can be done about it and what has been done has only made it easier for people to take advantage of and abuse the system.
I switched to seeing only the newest deviations, rather than the most popular, a long time ago. I never really cared for the front page then, either. The most popular was really just that... a popularity vote... some things were deserving of their popularity, but unfortunately it made it so that many of the things that were shown on the front page were simply the silly trends and fads and quick works of people who could become complacent in their popularity, so that they didn't have to try anymore to be recognized--they could just make cheap little adoptables, simple-minded fan art and quick works with few details and get front-page recognition. Simply because they have become popular or rode the backs of the popularity of other's. Sure, some of those things could be appealing. Don't get me wrong--some of those adoptables are neat, I like some fan art, and those quick sketches that become popular are sometimes rather funny (though, often, only to the people who know the characters belonging to that artist). Some of those works definitely deserved the front page, and if you're popular it's typically because of the success of your past work. But that system had flaws, as well, and neither is perfect--neither system necessarily rewards effort or time spent on a project. It's based on how well you advertise, and, once an artist has found a comfortable little front-page niche, it only makes it easier for them to keep it, taking places that others will be hard pressed to attain.
I think they tried to randomize it a little, just a touch, which I respect, but... it doesn't help, either.
They should probably return to their former system, or find something better, still...
Good luck with figuring it out, though.
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LovesYaoiPairings13 Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012
I completely agree!
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:iconxperfugium:
xPerfugium Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
And whose to say an artist who is good and does normal things is not noticed. I don't know if I'm amazing and I still have a lot of room to grow into but I spend a long time working on my artwork.
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:icondansekampkunst:
Dansekampkunst Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012
comment!
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:iconchumiiyaclayshop:
ChumiiyaClayShop Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012
Ah, exactly.
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:icon1foxylady:
1Foxylady Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012
Saw it on the font page. (Maybe a few pages down for people who use the "show 24 deviations" option,
but its on it way to the front none the less. Great job! I hope you make it up there. :iconknightplz:
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:iconweirdmindofesh:
weirdmindofesh Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I carried on as if thing had happened and as far as I can tell, nothing did.
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:iconvincekato:
VinceKato Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Student General Artist
I just checked and I'm actually only seeing(and always have seen) the newest deviations on the frontpage, to be honest. I didn't know anything about this, but I get what you mean.
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:iconshaizic:
shaizic Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Student General Artist
Well that certainly explains the sudden increase in faves on a piece I did years ago; mind you it's not the greatest. Went from maybe 3 faves in 2 years to suddenly almost 15 in 2 hours. Must've been frontpage'd sometime last month. I bookmark'd my messages instead of the frontpage, so God only knows what else I miss.
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:iconiv47e:
IV47E Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
so that's why the front page is hit with so much nudity
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:iconamortician:
aMortician Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Student Photographer
Yep, I hate it
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:iconangelamontgomry:
AngelaMontgomry Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Student General Artist
I second this.
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:icontranquildisturbance:
TranquilDisturbance Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
My thought exactly.
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:icondondog:
Dondog Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012
I get your point, the 'fair' system is ruined by douchebags.
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:iconcron12:
cron12 Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
There is a great line on a shirt i saw once.

"it you make something idiot proof someone will make a better idiot."

the point is, people who want something will do every underhanded thing they can do to get attention.
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:iconkmbackwardsk:
KMbackwardsK Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012
i agree i always catagorize my work under manga and anime and i get an average of four views per picture. since everyone who sees my art seem to love it id think it would be worthy of being more widely viewed...i know that feel bro.
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:icondeviantpooch:
Deviantpooch Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
need a tl;dr for the big text :p
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:iconniyla:
Niyla Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012
tl;dr:
DeviantArt's frontpage system favors certain categories of deviations. This lets less popular art from obscure categories reach the frontpage in place of more popular art from traditional categories. Although art shouldn't necessarily be about popularity, this is really hindering the better artists who are good enough to get deviations with that many views and want more exposure.
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:icondeviantpooch:
Deviantpooch Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
sorry for the reddit reference, thought i was on it XD XD XD hahaha karma
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:icondeviantpooch:
Deviantpooch Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
THANK YOU! You deserve a bunch of karma!
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:iconniyla:
Niyla Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012
No problem
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:iconmiqsh:
Miqsh Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012
Yeah, I am sick of opening DA to find people who think they are expressing themselves .. but only making an ass of themselves.
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:iconcommandorye:
CommandoRye Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Wouldn't it be great if you got another 50,000 followers? lol
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:iconcommandorye:
CommandoRye Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
but seriously, if you think about it: is there really any way to fix this? It's people who are "playing the system" rather than playing fair. The only way around this kind of crap would have to be 24 hour devWatchers or some kind of ridiculous art police that skims the daily deviations. I don't know what the admins do with their time, but shouldn't they have moderators to deal with these things?
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:iconamortician:
aMortician Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Student Photographer
I honestly agree with you.

Not to mention I believe a lot of the DD's aren't worthy.
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:icontelelia:
Telelia Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I saw this like three pages from the front
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:icontsumeslash:
tsumeslash Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I am seeing a lot of interesting art work on my front page o-o im 97% sure that the front page is composed according to what the account user has viewed/favorited/commented on. Ya know, so that we can all see artwork we enjoy. I see several pictures on the front page that seem like quick 5-10 minute drawings or hastily made/edited photography, but no where near as much as you are saying. Though I may be pretty lenient with what I consider mind blowing work.
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:iconrichthewolf257:
RichTheWolf257 Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Ok, Lets see this thing work its magic!
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:iconnekoninja13:
NekoNinja13 Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012
wow this might acually happen
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:iconrajani-blake:
Rajani-Blake Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
agree!
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:iconfiercedeitylink3h:
FierceDeityLink3H Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012   Artist
:clap:
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:iconmojodeardiary:
MojoDearDiary Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Ahh.. that's why. In a few months I have though why is this on the front page?
I'm not saying that what is on the front page is bad, (tho I liked it better before) it just has so few faves, and comments, and I didn't really understand what was going on.
I support.
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:iconkallu-wah:
kallu-wah Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I can't anderstand all of you explication but i think that i have anderstand your idea wilch seems good !:aww:
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:icongorilla-ink:
goRillA-iNK Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
This is funny because this too is keeping those that create Typographical Art from being seen or even ending up on the front page,
should their art ever be that popular or worthy enough to make it there. :XD:

Irony is so screwed up sometimes. :laughing:
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:iconfatchickthriller:
fatchickthriller Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
And in the process you're clogging the front page with this mindless bullshit
It's okay to get this kind of message across, I'll give you that, but handfuls of other people like you are reposting this same image in the same category
"WE THINK THIS SYSTEM'S BULLSHIT!!!!!!!1"
then stop promoting it like this you mindless fucks
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:iconpowerblade:
Powerblade Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Except, you know, you could have brought it in a way that's constructive, instead of being a bitch about it, lol.
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:iconfatchickthriller:
fatchickthriller Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Cry more
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:iconpowerblade:
Powerblade Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Naaaaaaaah.
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:iconwilldabeast-0305:
Willdabeast-0305 Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
"Fair Exposure" sounds like a good thing, and it could have been, but cheating people make it impossible for the thing to work right.
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:iconbondofflames8:
BondofFlames8 Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I like mlp the show, but im getting SICK of all the vector comics on there. same goes with the nude women, i turned my filter back on so i DONT have to see that every time i log in. >.<
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:iconebolabears:
EbolaBears Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012
Liar.
Frontpage. 60 deviations. One nude. 59 non-nudes.

Stop supporting a crusade based on lies.
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:iconpowerblade:
Powerblade Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It's obviously not JUST about the nudes (there have been days where 50% of the front page was nude). I get that people are sick of it. I am as well. Don't just throw around insults like that. :I
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:iconkeitiblackwhitewolf:
KeitiBlackWhiteWolf Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
i know, wtf is with people. D:
common sense guys.
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:iconpowerblade:
Powerblade Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Seriously. Apparently it's too much to ask, nowadays. Using common sense, I mean. And I adore your icon, I love the AristoCats C:
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:iconkeitiblackwhitewolf:
KeitiBlackWhiteWolf Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
thankyou<3
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