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- Think you can beat me? - by oomizuao - Think you can beat me? - by oomizuao
"I can't beat up a girl...!"
Lillith: "Yeah, I don't think you can either."

:p

I've changed Lillith's role in the Spike story again. I've been doing some thinking, and after a chat with JuliePig we both agreed that it would be way better if Lillith didn't just exist in the story for the sake of being someone's love interest.
I want her to be more in-character, to be the tough, independent young woman she is. She'll still be sweet and kind and stuff, but she's also got the ability to kick some ass. Quite literally. I've decided to give her a hobby besides listening to music: kick boxing.

I have a lot planned out for this, and it just fits perfectly with everything in the story.
I won't make Lillith a mary sue though..! She's not going to be flawless or win every match or junk like that. She'll just be a Lillith who's able to fend for herself, you know?
Gosh, I'd love to tell you everything I've planned for her, including her friendship/rivalry with Spike, and just.... I've made some big changes to the Spike story this week, and now everything just fits, you know? :D
And I'm excited and ready to start writing the whole thing now. I've got 90% planned out, for real this time. Everything fits nicely together now, and all there is to it really, is writing it all in chapter form...! :D
I'm just too busy to find proper time to just write. Because I know once I start writing, I won't be able to stop before I've almost finished the story..! So I'm thinking that from the end of May and throughout the summer, I want to spend a lot of time writing :la:

So I hope that's some exciting news..? :3

Anyways, a little teaser for you here..

kick-boxing Lillith, everyone! XD



art and character (C) Elise M. Syvertsen / oomizuao 2014
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:iconsnowkitteh223:
Snowkitteh223 Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Can I use the picture for a role play session?
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dreamwalker818 Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2015
I luv her.
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MiningForDegus Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2015
Looks nice. I love the colour and the detail. Looks to be a great character.
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ManhattonOctoberfest Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2014
"I can't beat up a girl...!"
Lillith: "Yeah, I don't think you can either." Well that's one way of making un-intended enemies. XD
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4n1me-Art1st Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014
Why does she remind me of my friend a bit scary but still she does look beautiful in this and the anatomy is brilliant
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Whetsit-Tuya Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2014  Student Filmographer
Yes
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saxumsando Featured By Owner May 18, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
sexy cat-girl :D (Big Grin) 
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:iconcyntrix-gm:
Cyntrix-GM Featured By Owner May 7, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Well, I personally think you certainly improved and developed Lilith more. I for one, don't really like it when a characters existence is just to be a love interest. Then I feel the characters place in the story is unnecessary/unneeded. That it could carry on without them being missed. So, I'm very glad to see you made Lilith an independent character! Not to mention her physique is quite intriguing in a positive way (not in a perverted way, mind you). 

Job well done, and It's good to hear you're excited! Keep it up! :hug:
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MikeyAnthroVulupin Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2014
I'd love to see her give Spike some fighting tips so they could tag-team and beat the living crap out of Charles.
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:iconderpderpdeherp:
derpderpdeherp Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014
Awesome!! Can't wait for the rest of the story to be published!
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:iconwolfin22:
wolfin22 Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
i cloud beat her X3
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BlackFOXofficial Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This art is awesome! :) It's a good idea with a kick-boxing, but it is better not to do it so muscular ;)
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RichTheWolf257 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Very yes.
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Nightcat1445 Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
So does this mean that Delyth role is changing too? or is she not going to exist anymore?
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oomizuao Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm not sure what to do with Delyth, really... o.o  Because, yes, her role might have to change a bit. So, I'm gonna have to think about that... ^^;
But thanks for your concern! :) it's nice to see she's actually remembered ^u^
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Caldwin Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2014
It surprises me that people would think her being able to defend herself would change her character...seeing as how...you know...that whole post apocalyptic zombie hunter...thing!
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Shiito-kun Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Beautiful >3<
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catshe Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I'm so happy you're excited! 
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MasterPlasma Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014
She looks kinda manly here XD
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thespartanpenguin Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014
Question is would she beat the shit out of people or take manias approach of not despite being able to break a block of concrete bare handed great power great responsibility crap, 
Beramino may have said it badly but parts make sense depending on how you handle it
If she uses the kickboxing as a threat to make people scared she's not really any better than chuck, different reasons obviously, but still abusing a position of power of weaker people for own gain
If it's self defense and fitness living in a rough area makes a lot of sense and rounds her off nicely (though Krav Manga is supposedly better for self defence due to the focus on disarming people)
Or being female, wing chun, she has the disadvantage of size, and though she'd have a hell of a kick, reach could be her undoing, so a style of super close range block and attack with high speed, brutally powerful punches and kicks  (look at bruce lee's modification of the wing chun taught by ipman) 
Main reason it was seen as a 'female' art was due to it being good for women, focusing on thier strengths negating the advantages others may have on them physically.

But the ability to disarm fast would be useful in a areas that guns are definitely present in if Ray is to be taken as a bit of a standard for gangs, hence the krav manga mention, disarming knives and guns, as well as use in melee combat of both



  
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oomizuao Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
No no no, she's not going to be some heartless brute, not at all..! :noes:  I just meant for the kickboxing thing to be a sort of hobby of hers, that means she can fend for herself should she ever need to. But she's still going to be the sweetheart I've tried to previously present her as :) Her personality won't change a bit. ^_^  But she might act a little tough towards Spike, because he insults her (without meaning it) when he underestimates her abilities as a kick boxer because she's a girl, so in their first "fight" - Spike refuses to fight her like an equal, which makes Lillith use some effective, though not harmful, techniques to defeat Spike. So she does that to prove to Spike that she wants to be treated like an equal, to be treated as the person she is and not have her gender be what people judge her by.
She's still a rocker, she still loves music, she still dresses the same way but has a gym-outfit as well, so I'm not changing Lillith's personality. On the contrary, I think that by this I'm actually letting her personality shine through way more than if she was just someone's love interest.

I hope this clarifies things a little more :) Sorry if I made her sound exaggeratedly bad-ass and even bully-like in the description, that was not my intention. ^^;
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thespartanpenguin Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014
Like I said, multiple ways it could go and by the sound of it defiantly going down the positive route of the possible paths
It's an addition not a definition if you follow. As in it's something that refines her not something that defines her
Though I maintain a two or three styles would be best XD No one expects to be floored by a one in punch
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independentstate Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014
Oh my gosh I LOVE IT!!
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tekk-the-killer Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2014
I cant wait. I love kikboxing. Its really fun. Also love lillith. She and all your characters are amazing!
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:iconberamino:
Beramino Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2014
Are you seriously kidding me? Elise, listen, you ruined this perfectly
good characther that youve had for years, you ruined her horribly today.
Im a fan of Lillith and this is painfull to watch. She didnt need this,
she didnt need to be turned into a overpowered, dangerous, life
treathaning, violence loving, harm practicing, abusing, evil kicker with
big muscles who hurts people. Just cause you make her a danger to
everyone around her, doesnt make her a independent, more in-characthered
person, its stupid to say that, making someone who can harm anyone very
baddly doesnt make her, a more interesting characther, she was more
than fine before this, everyone already loved her before this bad
decision and so did i, you didnt need to do this, this was not only
pointless but actualy degrades the characther to horrible shit. Dont do
this to Lillith please, for not just fan sakes, but her own for if she
has been around for this many years, its obvious she will not go away
for many, many, many years to come and id prefer if the characther that
im a crazy fan about, isnt horribly altered and destroyed like this from
now on. Think about what youre doing, this isnt right, its bad and you
can still undo what youve done, believe me, its for the best. If you
absolutely have to make this characther some massively insane big star
of the internet, please dont do it with the overused violence, give her a
actualy hobby, a real better, non violent hobby, doing kicks isnt the
best of solutions, there are far better choices of hobbies, activities
and etc. Please change her back Elise.... wasnt it enough that you ruin
her with the black emo clothes, the overused stupid boots, the goth
hoodies and shirts and making her some impossibly surviving zombie
hunter?! That was realy more damage you did, than you shouldnt have
done... It wasnt that much harm tough, compared to this atleast, this is
far by the worst that you have done to her, to us... Please think about
it, you can do better than this, this is only bad what youve done but
you can change it so please, dont make her a OP beater who picks on
everyone and can harm, injure, kill anyone at any given moment, its
realy not neccesary and is quite negative... im begging you as a
extremly upset, logical, sensable, trustworthy, compasionate, following
fan, please, revert her back, remove her muscles, remove her ""ass
kicking abilities"", dont make her dangerous, and just make her a normal
girl again.... okay? Please Elise, please :(....... P.S. the only good
side about this is that you ARE giving her a hobby but the wrong one,
and that she is finaly out of those stupid overused boots. Im sorry if
you have a boot fetish but i dont, a change on that would only mean
better results, as well as finaly some colors in those pants and shirts.
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Cyntrix-GM Featured By Owner May 7, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
trololololol
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PurpleMambo Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
How old are you..?
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Beckoned413 Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I commented politely before I had finished your comment but now, what the hell?! What is wrong with you?!?! All black emo clothing???? Who the hell do you think you are? Emo is a stereotype that you are WAY off on, Lillith is in no fucking way emo and even if she was, WHATS THE FUCKING PROBLEM? AGAIN ITS NOT YOUR DAMN CHARACTER AND YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT A FAN OR ELSE YOU WOULD NOT DEGRADE ELISE'S DECISIONS!!!! This was extremely rude and uncalled for, not only did you piss me off, but you probably made Elise sad or mad about this and second guess her judgement, She is a brilliant writer and has significantly improved Lillith as a well rounded character. Kick boxing IS in fact a hobby and not all kick boxer plan to KILLL PEOPLE like you've suggested. IT is a sport and it is mainly for self defense. In NO way has Lillith turned into a bully. THIS IS NOT YOUR OC (original character if you didn't know you uneducated swine) AND YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER WHAT HAPPENS TO HER. THIS WAS RUDE< UNCALLED FOR AND FRANKLY I WISH I COULD DO MORE THAN RAGE ONLINE. Leave Elise alone, she does not deserve your hate. You should be ashamed for calling yourself a "fan" of Lillith.
P.S. I FUCKING LOVE THE BOOTS.
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Beramino Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014
Go kill yourself stupid girl. Learn to think before you write up such garbage.
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Beckoned413 Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
oomizuao 4 hours ago Hobbyist General Artist
No no no, she's not going to be some heartless brute, not at all..! I just meant for the kickboxing thing to be a sort of hobby of hers, that means she can fend for herself should she ever need to. But she's still going to be the sweetheart I've tried to previously present her as Her personality won't change a bit. ^_^ But she might act a little tough towards Spike, because he insults her (without meaning it) when he underestimates her abilities as a kick boxer because she's a girl, so in their first "fight" - Spike refuses to fight her like an equal, which makes Lillith use some effective, though not harmful, techniques to defeat Spike. So she does that to prove to Spike that she wants to be treated like an equal, to be treated as the person she is and not have her gender be what people judge her by.
She's still a rocker, she still loves music, she still dresses the same way but has a gym-outfit as well, so I'm not changing Lillith's personality. On the contrary, I think that by this I'm actually letting her personality shine through way more than if she was just someone's love interest.

I hope this clarifies things a little more Sorry if I made her sound exaggeratedly bad-ass and even bully-like in the description, that was not my intention.


Oomizuao said this herself which proves your comment wrong. I apologize for stooping so low and insulting you but please, refrain from being so rude, and oomizuao is obviously not destroying her character like you thought. Please don't tell me to kill myself just because you can't think of a good comeback.
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Beramino Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014
Lillith is ruined, destroyed, turned to shit, she is dead to me. Fuck all of that, fuck her being so evil, OP, violence loving, capable of beating up crap and fuck you.
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Beckoned413 Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
What you fail to see is that she isn't evil :) she's still the same Lillith we know and love :) Kick boxing is just a hobby, and just because she may be capable of beating people up doesn't mean she will. She's still the same ole lovable Lillith :)
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Beckoned413 Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Seriously? I mean really? If you feel this way that's fine but why share it? She isn't your character and it isn't your choice, its opinion. Like in my opinion I think this makes Lillith as a character stronger and more developed, not "a overpowered, dangerous, life threatening, violence loving, harm practicing, abusing, evil kicker with big muscles who hurts people." When did Elise ever even say that? Lillith isn't going to be mean, she's tough, and can defend herself, not beat up on the innocent. The whole point of Spike as a novel is to deter people from abuse and bullying, Lillith wont be like that and she is definitely not ruined as a character. If you are a fan of her, then accept that these changes have been made and there is nothing you can do to change that.
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miswels Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2014  Student Writer
Really? 
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Averant Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think she looks amazing! Your style is changin, developing. And it looks great! Lillith is my favourite of
your characters, and going back through and seeing the subtle changes of her over you different pieces
has been a learning experience. Brilliant... +Fave!
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Xyliaz Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm excited to read it! And I LOVE extremely developed characters. :) When I first started my story, I was young and made a bunch of really flat characters. Then I rebooted it and I am making less characters with more personality. In some cases, I just combined several characters into one. :D
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BrokenBone Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Sweet! =)
I kickbox, it's awesome!
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Vince-Toru Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2014  Student General Artist
Fantastic~
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WolfyProjects Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2014  Student Artist
Ok pump it up!!! X3
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TheOmnivorusGeek Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2014
i'm going to have to read this story!
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Mad-Nowaki Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
that's awesome cant wait >.<
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lesterpartaker Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i love itLa la la la 
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lesterpartaker Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
grand idea once again oomi
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zecketo Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014  Hobbyist
where can I learn more bout this comic? im relly interested in it.
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independentstate Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014
As far as I understand it, this comic is mainly in novel form, and Elise is planning on finishing the book sometime this yea probably. The book is really good and the first few chapters are in her DA gallery (oomizuao.deviantart.com/galler…, but since she's really good at drawing too she does a lot of it in comic format, and I really hope it turns into a full comic in future, but for now it's mostly snippets, single-page comics and pictures in her gallery, a few of which are here: oomizuao.deviantart.com/galler…. The story is really amazing and I highly recommend it!
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zecketo Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2014  Hobbyist
I have hopes ^^
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BlueSnowLeopard Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Holy shit...
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Squiddy-chan Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014
Hooray! Very cool. :3
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xmiyaox Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
kjempefint bilde :-) <3 Beautiful picture :D
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joeyalmendarez Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2014
ROUND 1! FIGHT!
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