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an introduction to my Anthro universe.. :P

Journal Entry: Sun Nov 11, 2012, 3:53 AM

I got a question the other day, about what dog breed Sam and Saunders in their anthro form is supposed to be.

I started answering the comment, but soon found out it would just end up being a looooong reply... And I thought, as I wrote, that maybe others would be interested in what breed they and their relatives are, as well as Spike's breed, some character origins, how the people (or anthro) in my little fictive universe views their fellow inhabitants, and a bit of history around this whole thing.

Therefore, I'm deciding on writing a journal entry about this.

First of:

The different breeds.

Saunders and Sam were originally, when I first created and designed them, supposed to be Golden Retrievers. Thus, they did in fact both have floppy, furry ears just like the Golden has. For some reason, I felt this made the characters look sad, so I changed - I think - Saunders' ears first to stand up just like a Terrier's ears. Sam's ears changed shortly after. I kept this change as I thought it made them look more cheerful, which fit their personalities more.
But their breed didn't change... Years went on, and I didn't concern myself much about the fact that they were Golden Retrievers who looked nothing like Golden Retrievers :p
I think I didn't fully notice until I decided on working on Saunders' family history and how they looked like.

Saunders has five siblings.
one younger brother, one younger sister, two older twin sisters, and one older brother (who is the oldest of them all, though sadly died when Saunders was still a kid).
'Saunders' is their last name. Saunders' original name is Peter Nevin Caeoimhin Saunders, and was just known as Peter until he met his High School friends; Terrance and Jam, who nicknamed him Saunders (Saunders has a strong dislike for the military, and so Terrance and Jam found it funny to address him like he would be addressed had he been in the army - by his last name).
Saunders' parents are Nathaira MacKinley (mother) and Muirios Caeoimhin Saunders (father). Muirios is an Irish Terrier, and looks a lot like one too. He was a sailor, and was often away at sea for several months at a time. The few times he was home with his family, he would tell his children stories about fighting pirates and all the adventures he'd had at sea. Whether they were true or not, Saunders doesn't know - although he's chosen to believe every word his dear father has told him. Muirios was as great a father as Saunders is, and is in fact Saunders' role model. The only thing Saunders didn't like about his father, was how he was never around.
Saunders was practically raised by his older brother, Kavan. When Kavan wasn't there, Saunders was the oldest boy, and had to raise and look after the younger ones. His older twin sisters weren't all that kind, and didn't help him out at all.
Their mother, Nathaira, dealt with a lot of depression due to not having her husband around and having to cope with feeding and looking after six children, all on her own. She didn't have the energy to look much after them, and handed the responsibility over to her oldest sons. She was a seamstress, and worked at home, but her children would mostly be outside, as they didn't really want to be that much around her. There weren't much love and affection to get from her anyways.
Nathaira's breed is currently unknown, as I actually haven't drawn her yet. I'm guessing she could be a West Highland White Terrier, because of how those dogs look.
Saunders had a crush back home, a Collie named Erin, who was the only daughter of the local blacksmith. When they were older, and Saunders planned on traveling abroad to go to High School, they swore to marry each other when Saunders would return. They gave each other a golden ear ring, which would look less suspicious to their parents than a wedding ring, as neither of their parents would approve of them being together.
Saunders is still wearing that golden ear ring he got from Erin. His other ear ring is from his ex wife, Sasha.
Sasha, is a pure breed Golden Retriever, and proud of it. She was from a rather snobby, and wealthy family. Still, Sasha was more of a rebel in her late teens. When she was 18 years old, she met Saunders. She firstly fell in love with his accent, and the fact that he was a "foreigner". She thought that a one night stand wouldn't lead to anything.
When Sam was born, she was still seeing Saunders, but having a child didn't fit her plan at all. Her parents didn't want anything to do with her and her baby at all since she'd married a scruffy and poor, crossbreed hippie who weren't even from their country..!
Sasha and Saunders were madly in love the first months of Sasha's pregnancy, and married rather quickly. They gave each other golden rings, to put on their ring fingers, not have as ear jewelry. When Sasha left Saunders and Sam later, and after their official divorce, Saunders kept the wedding ring, though had it re-made to an ear ring without Sasha knowing it. She kept her ring too, but only because she could sell it and earn some money on it. Saunders kept it because he was still in love with her.
So that's why Saunders has two ear rings :)

Sam is a crossbreed. He and Saunders were originally meant to be purebreeds, which would be a contrast to Spike who would be a hybrid (father: wolf. Mother: wolf x Husky).
I've kept saying Spike is a wolf, because he in a way is most part wolf. The dog part of him is very small, but it shows in the way he looks.
Charles and Charles' bother (and Spike's father) Jeremy are wolves, although their parents' were different type of wolves, which made Charles and Jeremy look so different.
Jeremy was also rumored by their neighbors to be a bastard child, because he had heterochromia eyes (different colored eyes; one brown and one blue). Whether that's true or not, their mother never revealed.
So Spike is a wolf, most part. But in a way he's also viewed as a hybrid.
Sam and Saunders are crossbreeds, or 'mutts' as some would be rude enough to call them.

which brings us to:

species, crossbreeds and racism.

In my little anthro universe, racism exists like in our human world. There has been wars due to people's differences and other reasons, and there has been attempted an extermination of a certain species.
They have a brutal past, and some of the attitudes of old linger. Some are racists, some are closer to what we will call Nazis, though most anthros in this world are not concerned about these things, and treat people with respect and kindness.
There are some inside jokes about certain species or breeds, like how the canines will make jokes about female Schnauzers, and about how they're rumored to be born with beards that they have to shave the rest of their lives, and how all Poodles are gay. Jokes like these aren't meant to harm anyone, but can be offensive, so they're being said behind the backs of the breeds in question.

In this world, there are several species, but they're grouped into two majors: Predators and Preys (basically Carnivores and Herbivores).
This comes from the ugly part of their past, thousands and thousands of years ago where they were all what we would call 'cannibals'. Felines and Canines hunted down and killed Rodents and other 'weaker' beings that didn't feed on flesh. Now, like then, called Preys.
The Preys hid in other parts of the world, and lived like that for a long while. Tha era is known as the Ancient War. The first 'civilized' war they had, was a lot like our WW2. The Preys had increased in numbers, and were walking among the Predators, which a lot of the Predators didn't like.
This lead to a new type of attempted extinction of the Preys. One can compare it to what happened to the Jewish people in WW2..

In the time when Spike and Sam live, there aren't any wars anymore. Still, a lot of people are rather racist, and with most of the Prey gone, they have grouped the Predators into Canines and Felines. They are the major groups. Reptiles are rare, even rarer than the Prey, now called Rodents or Herbivores. And the Equine race is said to be completely extinct.
With no one around to bully, hate or mock, they turn to each other.
Felines look down on Canines, and Canines see themselves as the strongest species and look down on Felines.
Canine and Feline marriage, is strongly frowned upon. And even within the different groups of Felines and Canines, they have rules for marriage. Unwritten rules that is.
A tiger and a normal cat's child, is  a hybrid (or inter-hybrid). Same goes for a wolf and a dog, or a hyena and a dog, etc...
It sort of works like this: what we humans call 'domesticated animals' are the same as 'civilized people' in this anthro wold. 'Wild animas' aren't as civilized as the 'domesticated' ones. So, a dog anthro will say to his or her children about the wolf anthro; "Stay away from the likes of him, or he'll bite you."
Biting, snarling, growling, barking, even meowing or purring or scratching, are things that civilized people just don't do. If you do any of those things, you are looked upon as a dangerous and uncivilized crazy person. Being in touch with your roots, is ugly behavior. One simply does not bite another person. That's the worst thing you could ever do!
Spike bites. He bites, snarls, growls, and has a strong urge to want to howl on several occasions. He doesn't care, and he sees biting as a powerful tool in fights, as it not only harms his opponent greatly, but intimidates them a great deal, causing them to be more careful or even flee.
And fun fact: Lillith can purr, although she hardly does it. ;)

Despite all the racism in this world, there are a lot of the anthros who are what's been commonly known as 'hippies'. They don't care what breed or species you are, whether you're a hybrid or not. They believe that love is love.
Saunders is a good example of one of these 'hippies'. And so is Terrance, even though he's a purebreed. Terrance is even homosexual, which is equally, if not more, frowned upon by some people as it is in our human world. Our human world is getting more and more tolerant to other sexualities, which I think is a great thing! I don't see any reason why gay people shouldn't have equal rights as straight people. But in this anthro world, they're just not there yet. To put it this way: If you're a gay anthro, beware of people with rocks; if they find out you're gay, they'll throw those rocks at you.

So, my anthro universe is based a lot on our human world. Evolution, wars, different beliefs with both positive and negative outcomes. And the past few decades has been - in general - very similar to our world.
I've decided on keeping these worlds to similar, to make it easier to relate to, and to keep it somewhat 'real', as in terms of no dragons and swordsmen and stuff.. ;)

I hope this was a somewhat interesting and clarifying (or more confusing?) read.

If you read it all; here, have a cookie. :cookie:
And let me know what you think :aww:

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luxord2654 Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2013   Digital Artist
O yay *noms on cookie* lol
SpawnFire88 Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2013
So is it at all possible to breed a feline and canine or not? In my universe its a 50-50 chance the offspring will either be canine or feline.
Alcatrazin Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2013
This answered a lot of my questions! Except what is this cookie made out of...
Reixma Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I have often wondered what breeds of dogs your characters were! Now I know! ^_^~x
Flamy-Star Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2012
Love it. Great to read something from you even if it's just info, yet very interesting info :3 Nice.
DragonessDeanna Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2012  Student Filmographer
I like it! I like the whole idea of the war thing. I haven't heard about that in another anthro world. Hope to find out more! ^^
LiberumEqua Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012
This was real interesting to read. :D I especially like the complexity of the relationships between the existing species, because it is original and believable as it is based on the human world (thus we can understand and relate to it).
I find Saunders's story real sad, but touching, and it's always nice getting to know a character's background story, as we then understand their motives better. :)

Oh, and thanks for the cookie! :chew: :heart:
Viccinor Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Jeg syntes dette er veldig bra jobbet! C:
Yupp. Gleder meg sykt til lese historiene dine i denne verden ja :D
Dark-Wolf-59 Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I didn't expected this, but it was very VERY interesting ! =D The world you've created is awesomely original and close to real life in the same time...
Simply perfect ;) Great job Elise !
I'm a bit late, but nevermind, right ? ^^;
ingmaster5 Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Student Writer
Do you think you could make a toutorial on how to draw anthros? I have an entire race of (dog+cat)xHuman aliens in my story, and don't even know where to start.
Tiiria Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012   Digital Artist
I've left this in my notifications for the past few days to read when I got time to read the whole thing. Thanks for the cookie. :3

I like your world. It sounds interesting, and the parallels with the real world work well. It does seem a little farther behind than our world, though. As if they haven't had any revolutions/movements yet, like the civil rights movement or the sexual revolution (which most people don't know about - when contraception and abortion were legalized, and sex ed was starting to be taught in schools, and sex had less to do with marriage) or the LGBT rights movement.

It doesn't mention much about inter-country relations, though. That's something I'd find interesting. Do different breeds or species come from specific regions? Like, in one country it's mostly rodents, but in another it's mostly cats or something like that. And how the countries' policies relate to their populations.
00Crazy Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012   Artist
And That's thoughts put on story, just nice~ (Really, it's all open to questions and ideas, per see)
Actually, there's something interesting discuss (sorry, can't resist): did humans even exist there?...
nintensony Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
That makes sense
RuffusBaBy Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Simply stunning! I love it! What says you if a herbivore and a carnivore have a relationship and possibly even get married? Could they have kids? How would others respond? What would their relationship be like? (lol I was thinking of Hedy and her feelings for Spike and this just popped into my head!)
PS: Just curious, what would a snake anthro look like? Would it have legs and arms?!? What would happen if a reptile and a mammal fell in love? (lol im sorry for all the questions! I don't mean to pick at your universe (it's very thoughtful and imaginative) I swear! I'm just a curious fan!)
Ayumi-Nemera Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
uber interesting! 8D it's always cool to see how people come up with their own ideas of anthropomorphic culture and civilization! :meow:

My fiance and I share out own ideas about the anthro world, but we pretty much base it in a future version of this world in which true humans have gone extinct, or are so rare that people assume they're extinct.
capitana-panda Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Is interesting to see people looking for explanation in a world totally Anthro ....I have a main character named Jhonan, is a black and white cat that was neglected in the past by marrying a female dog (labrador) with whom they had a daughter who in turn was also despised by the people and family ... but times change and nowadays people do not look so weird the hybrid....I comment you because I think people should see more explanation to the world Anthro.
Talkerwolf Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Student Writer
That was really interesting. Though I don't get why Saunders looks the way he does, though I do understand how Sam can look like that :)
SolitaryGrayWolf Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I get how Sam is part Golden Retriever from Sasha, but if Saunder's dad was an Irish Terrier, was his mom a Golden Retriever then? Cause I don't think you put in there what breed she is. Or maybe I missed it.
FMAInuYasha Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Wow I really cant wait to read the actual story I am really looking forward to it! How is it coming anyway? :) Keep up the good work!! I must say as a Christian I do not share your beliefs on gays but I have absolutely no problem with being friends them, I have a few co-workers that I consider good friends. Jesus hung out with gays, whores, theives, and all sorts of other people who where not, and still aren't, considered "socially acceptable". You have to hate the sin and not the sinner, as it were.
Talidaga-Montrega Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Student General Artist
Very cool I like how you have it somewhat related to our world. I can almost relate things better with this in mind.
Palostable Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Aweseome! :D Eg leste alt, kjekt med litt innsikt faktisk :)
ruala--x Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Student General Artist
Very interesting! It's lovely insight and adds a lot to your story and characters. There seems to be a lot of depth to your fictional world, it is complex, like our own world.

I'm really looking forward to when your book/graphic novel is published!
SirNait Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
The war and all that confused me. But it was fun and interesting.
Thank you. I really enjoyed knowing about Saunders past. ^^
Bilkiba-Sasuke Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
This was very interesting to read. You have clearly put a lot of thought into this world, and I quite like that; it is impressive how well flushed out every facet of the story seems to be. Keep it up. ;)
TEK427 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I find the lore of your anthro world fascinating! It shows that you've definitely put some thought into this. I know the characters in your novel are suppose to be human, but I still picture them in their anthro form. :P Keep up the good work and good luck getting SPIKE published!

Also, yay! I get a cookie!
KagenoKyokiKitsune Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
love your world!!!! <3
Dancing-Vixen Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Wow, that's actually pretty awesome! Both simple and complicated... X3 Question though; what about Avians and Marine animals? :o
SaitirWolf Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist
The world you created is excellent!! And very original, the only anthro universe that is in a good way explained. The only thing i dont like is that i always see the same breeds, can you draw another breeds more often? =3
Starkidisthebomb Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
Are there other species as well? Like, lemmings :3
That was an enjoyable cookie, you should make more :D
DaniRaeOregon Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
that's really amazing, and sounds fairly similar to the ideas of an anthro world i had back in 7th grade (two years ago).
Mad-Nowaki Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
<3 X3 I love ur brain !!!!!
KurayamiKokoro Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
fascinating history
absolutely love it
but ... I have another question ... and birds? and marine animals?

I love cookie!!!! :giggle:
CrissyKatt Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i think is is fabilous. I have been thinking about my anthro world too, especialy alot about racism and such. I really like your versiob of it, it makes alot of sence to me.
Kassanovas Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Impressive,that's amazingly thought out and detailed description of what your
Spike world is like.:clap:
Sprit-X Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
If I was in an anthro universe I would prob not be able to contain myself and burst. :P I would want to give all female anthros love! :lol:
Soffiah Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Student General Artist
Well, I did thought about the fact of breeds,racism and that, but as you didn't ever mention a little signal of it, well I just supposed that it won't change anything in the novel and that, but it's good to know this stuff(:
P.D: OMG Lillith can purr it's so f*cking awesome!
Nayhed Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Student General Artist
This is very cool to read. It's pretty neat having all these details. :)
richardtorres21 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Student General Artist
i bet you all 1 dollop weer is flipping shit over the fact that lilith can puurrr! thanks oomi for doin a bit of a character chart! i kinda think (not sure) you were talkin about me, and man did i enjoy reading this!!! i love the society that you built up with the anthro's does a reptile show up in the book? like in rays gang theres a lone wolf reptile whose parents were killed in the anthrocost? idk im just spitting out curiousities XD cant wait till its published!
jackie2525 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Student Digital Artist
awesome! always great to some thoughts from the author xD
HellZiege Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
This is very impressive. I don't think I've come across anyone who's put that much thought and background into an anthro universe; especially on this level. I do have a question though: are non related species capable of cross-breeding? For example: if the same feline/canine couple you mentioned in your example were to get married, could they breed and produce offspring? Or would that still be considered impossible even by an anthro-universe standard? But if they can produce offspring, what would the child be considered? Would he or she be seen as a mutant?
BrazilianFerrets Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Your answer ~ [link] it says in the description hes a cat/dog hybrid
bec449 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i would very much like to know the same thing.
tragicless Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
Saunders, why you so awesome, bro?

Thanks for the journal, it was clarifying. :)
karenmizuno Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
The only thing I can say, without fangirling or saying you have the best ideas and pople who don't recognize it are plainly stupid, is that I just can't wait anymore till you finish it and I can buy it.
I really want to read SPIKE from beginning to end.
You, dear lady, are an inspiration for everyone who writes. And you inspire me to create my own universes, even if I suck as a writer.
Have a nice day, and thank you for sharing this to us :) You made my day :hug:
Sphynx-SN Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
Very cool. You put a lot of thought in it, it`s a pretty complete and convincing world.

Now, I won`t deny, if I lived in your anthro world and was a Feline, I'd probably look down on Canines, too. I would have this kind of feline pride and see the Canines as awkward and stuff. Though I'd respect wolves, I think. If I met Spike, I'd have a quarrel with him initially, but I'd end up admiring him, even though he's Canine.

By the way, I remembered The Ice Palace, a short story by F. Scott Fitzgerald, in which a character says she sees people as felines and canines, this is the dialog:

("Nice-looking crowd, aren't they?" suggested Patton, indicating the swirling floor.

Sally Carrol started. This had been Harry's remark.

"Sure are! They're-- canine."


She flushed.

"I'm sorry; that sounded worse than I meant it. You see I always think of people as feline or canine, irrespective of sex."

"Which are you?"

"I'm feline. So are you. So are most Southern men an' most of these girls here."

"What's Harry?"

"Harry's canine distinctly. All the men I've met tonight seem to be canine."

"What does `canine' imply? A certain conscious masculinity as opposed to subtlety?"

"Reckon so. I never analyzed it-- only I just look at people an' say `canine' or `feline' right off.")

By the way, Spike`s bully, Marco, is Feline, right? I remember you sketched him in the livestream once.
oomizuao Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
that's an interesting dialogue! :nod:

also, thank you ^u^

And yes, Marco is a feline. A mix breed feline :) I haven't posted his design yet, but I probably should some day ^^;
Sphynx-SN Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
Yea, please do :]
DeathByViola Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I am imensly hoping Spike can be published in the Americas. I have never actualy read the parts you had uploaded here but through your art I have indeed learned some stuff about it and am excited to see it published in the future. I have rambled to my mate often about how much I want to read this story and I have shared with him your art of the characters. It shall be wonderful indeed to see a book with anthro characters as I have never found one before. (If you have any to suggest, I'd love to read them~)
Gae-ta Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
All right, just three questions then. 1. If a feline were to marry a canine, this will not result in children, am I right? 2. What does all the "carnivores" eat when "herbivores" are rare? 3. Does the "carnivores" still eat "civilized herbivores"?
oomizuao Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
1. With the anthro population's genes being so similar in its basics, cats and dogs can have a child. It's kind of like with a horse and a donkey, you know? They're similar, yet so different, but somehow they can mate.
2. They've stopped the whole 'cannibalism' thing ages ago. There are, however, certain types of animals that didn't evolve into anthros, so fish and birds (and chickens) are 'normal' animals, and fully edible. They also eat other things, like bread, vegetables, rice, fruit, etc... But their main source of meat is from fish and birds.
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